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		<title>By: Tim Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.hereforthebeer.com/beer-website-age-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob!  It was Mormons, not morons.  Alcohol is a controlled substance, but information shouldn&#039;t be.  It&#039;s not illegal for a minor to read about alcohol.  The &quot;CYA&quot; aspect of having a drop-down age selector is unlikely to ever be of value in court or otherwise.  It only stands as a nuisance to beer lovers.  I would love for someone to show me any actual law or even case law that would require this &quot;protection&quot; on beer related websites and especially twitter accounts.  I appreciate your comments from the &quot;inside&quot; and would love to know if there is an actual basis for this, or if it&#039;s just a &quot;follow the leader&quot; system.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob!  It was Mormons, not morons.  Alcohol is a controlled substance, but information shouldn&#8217;t be.  It&#8217;s not illegal for a minor to read about alcohol.  The &#8220;CYA&#8221; aspect of having a drop-down age selector is unlikely to ever be of value in court or otherwise.  It only stands as a nuisance to beer lovers.  I would love for someone to show me any actual law or even case law that would require this &#8220;protection&#8221; on beer related websites and especially twitter accounts.  I appreciate your comments from the &#8220;inside&#8221; and would love to know if there is an actual basis for this, or if it&#8217;s just a &#8220;follow the leader&#8221; system.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mack</title>
		<link>http://www.hereforthebeer.com/beer-website-age-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Folks,

I work for a beer distributor and also run a Twitter account for the same distributor. I&#039;ll testify that there are no &quot;morons&quot; out here who purposely want to post an age verification procedure on our websites, especially one that makes getting to our websites more complicated, but legally we have little choice but to get sued otherwise. 

Like it or not, alcohol is a state controlled substance. Putting the age verification on a website or Twitter account serves the purpose of putting the responsibility back on the user of the website and not on the distributor, brewer or retailer of the alcohol. Legally, that&#039;s a huge distinction. 

So if you&#039;re really 14 and you say your 21, that&#039;s on you. And while we&#039;re on the subject, the Internet is still a gray area in many ways as far as the legal system is concerned. I expect that 10 years from now we&#039;ll look back at wonder why it was so free and easy to use in 2009, because I expect that there are many more legal restrictions coming down the pike in more areas than just alcohol. 

Cheers!
Bob Mack
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Folks,</p>
<p>I work for a beer distributor and also run a Twitter account for the same distributor. I&#8217;ll testify that there are no &#8220;morons&#8221; out here who purposely want to post an age verification procedure on our websites, especially one that makes getting to our websites more complicated, but legally we have little choice but to get sued otherwise. </p>
<p>Like it or not, alcohol is a state controlled substance. Putting the age verification on a website or Twitter account serves the purpose of putting the responsibility back on the user of the website and not on the distributor, brewer or retailer of the alcohol. Legally, that&#8217;s a huge distinction. </p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re really 14 and you say your 21, that&#8217;s on you. And while we&#8217;re on the subject, the Internet is still a gray area in many ways as far as the legal system is concerned. I expect that 10 years from now we&#8217;ll look back at wonder why it was so free and easy to use in 2009, because I expect that there are many more legal restrictions coming down the pike in more areas than just alcohol. </p>
<p>Cheers!<br />
Bob Mack<br />
@worldclass</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.hereforthebeer.com/beer-website-age-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I should make a t-shirt that just says &quot;I am not responsible for my actions&quot; and then whoever wore it would be absolved of any personal responsibility.  They would probably sell quite well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I should make a t-shirt that just says &#8220;I am not responsible for my actions&#8221; and then whoever wore it would be absolved of any personal responsibility.  They would probably sell quite well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about the same thing recently.  

http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/09/10/verify-this-alcohol-sites-and-age-verification/

I was shocked that Sam Adam&#039;s denied me access when I stated that I was as old as Jesus Christ.

As my friend stated, it&#039;s a wet floor sign:  &quot;you can&#039;t sue us...didn&#039;t you read the sign?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about the same thing recently.  </p>
<p><a href="http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/09/10/verify-this-alcohol-sites-and-age-verification/">http://thankheavenforbeer.com/2009/09/10/verify-this-alcohol-sites-and-age-verification/</a></p>
<p>I was shocked that Sam Adam&#8217;s denied me access when I stated that I was as old as Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>As my friend stated, it&#8217;s a wet floor sign:  &#8220;you can&#8217;t sue us&#8230;didn&#8217;t you read the sign?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Why we suck &#124; HereForTheBeer.com</title>
		<link>http://www.hereforthebeer.com/beer-website-age-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Why we suck &#124; HereForTheBeer.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] informative and captivating content.   Report on beer &#8211; that&#8217;s a far cry from what I am doing.  And hell, if that doesn&#8217;t work for you, give your editor my name &#8211; I&#8217;d be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] informative and captivating content.   Report on beer &#8211; that&#8217;s a far cry from what I am doing.  And hell, if that doesn&#8217;t work for you, give your editor my name &#8211; I&#8217;d be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Boont Amber Ale &#124; HereForTheBeer.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boont Amber Ale &#124; HereForTheBeer.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yeah, you&#8217;ll need their website and  10 minutes of your life that you will never get back to figure that out.  Be careful though, it&#8217;s the site that inspired my rant about age verification. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yeah, you&#8217;ll need their website and  10 minutes of your life that you will never get back to figure that out.  Be careful though, it&#8217;s the site that inspired my rant about age verification. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; be a funny lawsuit - &quot;I got in an accident trying to get past the age verification screen on my iPhone while driving&quot;.  Will it never end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That <em>would</em> be a funny lawsuit &#8211; &#8220;I got in an accident trying to get past the age verification screen on my iPhone while driving&#8221;.  Will it never end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott-TheBrewClub</title>
		<link>http://www.hereforthebeer.com/beer-website-age-verification/comment-page-1/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott-TheBrewClub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was having a lot of trouble getting past those blasted screens on my i-phone from my commute home on the highway.  

Don&#039;t they understand the danger these age-verification pages cause to those of us surfing while commuting, especially on motorcycles?  Jeeez.

In all seriousness, its a big-time lawyer thing.  The DM age verification is over the top, I wouldn&#039;t follow them, buy I would tweet angry tweets against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was having a lot of trouble getting past those blasted screens on my i-phone from my commute home on the highway.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they understand the danger these age-verification pages cause to those of us surfing while commuting, especially on motorcycles?  Jeeez.</p>
<p>In all seriousness, its a big-time lawyer thing.  The DM age verification is over the top, I wouldn&#8217;t follow them, buy I would tweet angry tweets against them.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickboegel (Patrick Boegel)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: untamedbeer (Brian Cendrowski)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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